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ABOLITION OF CIBIL Now a REALITY - RTI

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    Exclamation ABOLITION OF CIBIL Now a REALITY - RTI

    From:
    The CMD,
    Alliedlaw
    INDIA

    REF: CIBIL its authenticity / PIL under RTI on abolition of CIBIL

    Friends and Fellow Consumers:

    The last week saw a series of bank and CIBIL sponsered ads against our MD : B.N.Soans

    The sponsers and writers of such ads are only bankers and not any consumer.


    Principal Reason: ABOLITION OF CIBIL IN INDIA - IS ON THE CARDS

    The banks its directors at high places - about 6 nationalised banks / 5 private banks were called by the SupremeCourt to attend SBMITT and explain their share or contribution in encouraging private website owner CIBIL.
    Cibil which is a subsidiary of CIBIL TRANSUNION - in USA has a business which works contrary to banking laws of India.
    They display data at their website of anybody and everybody whoever their member banks state they are defaulters.
    For instance : I as an individual has been classified defaulter at CIBIL by banks - to get my own data iI need to apply to CIBIL for getting my own document.
    To get cibil I have to write to
    info
    cibil.com and pay Rs.142 for mini data and for full data send Rs.400 and collect data.
    To get details of myself I pay up upto Rs.400 which makes no logic to me.

    Here are the facts:

    According to RTI Activists like us : CIBIL is a private website owner. They display data online without knowledge and consent of indian consumer .
    we also have a letter from RBI Clearly stating that CIBIL has nothing to do with RBI
    Rules /Notifications:
    RBI Clearly states if any bank has to display any detail of individual - banks should inform the matter to consumer by registered post and sort the differances between bank and consumer. A copy has also to be sent to CIBIL.

    In the event consumer
    doesnt respond then there is COURT OF LAW : which bank has to approach
    to prove whether the person who borrowed money is a defaulter or not.
    Also most important : as per INDIAN LAW - one is not guilty unless proven guilty. Thus one isnt a defaulter unless proven defaulter.
    only if the COURT states that a borrower is defaulter - only banks can use services of private website CIBIL or for that instance any licensed credit worthiness displaying data online.
    CIBIL is a rogue company and now CIBIL and all other creditworthiness companies will be abolished from india.
    its just a matter of time.

    For filing a joint RTI Petition ON Abolition of all creditworthiness declaring private website owners write to:

    alliedlawmumbai@yahoo.in


    Genuinity of ALLIED LAW., is certfied by law : Licensed by and under ARBITRATION LAWS OF INDIA: BANKING/FINANCE
    as we have the same name and style of our concern.Our contact numbers
    remain unchanged for last 10 years

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    Why should CIBIL be abolished?

    1st and foremost RBI has its credit rating system. So when such an efficient RBI credit rating system EXISTS why should a PRIVATE Company ENCOURAGED by any of the PRIVATE Banks start a parrallel system.

    CIBIL though it began as a credit rating company - has a baised medium of Updating credit report of a consumer. Whatever the member banks- mostly private banks here ., gives CIBIL
    CIBIL updates it without even verifying the data given by the Bank IF IT BE FALSE.


    Thus because of such wrongfull display of Public Document by CIBIL many Indian Banking Consumers have suffered huge FINANCIAL LOSS.

    Sometimes consumers who apply for loans dont get Loans because their names are mentioned in CIBIL.
    Some people are surprised to see their name listed on CIBIL Website as defaulters.
    These are few people who havent availed any loans in life and applying for a loan for the 1st time - they are finding their names in CIBIL.

    It has so happenned on investigating how their name got listed in CIBIL -
    2 reasons have usually been the cause of this fraudulant display.

    Either the person who is listed at CIBIL - had approached a bank thru some loan agent and then the loan agent had filed for loan .
    The loan wouldnt have been given to this loan applicant . Tthen after some period of time- the loan application which was pending a loan approval - got approved and some one inside the bank - a bank official used this loan and didnt pay.
    Reason: loan was taken based on a consumers file whos file was pending earlier and now when approved the principle consumer was unaware of loan sanctioned on his application. The bank employee inside the bank utilising this opportunity misuses the loan that was santioned- utilses the facility.
    If such a person who has utlised loan in another persons identity -doesnt bother to repay - the person in whos name loan was availed turns a defaulter.
    Such people come to know this defaulter problem only when they apply for a loan.

    2.
    there are other facts where CIBIL places a persons name as defaulter.
    Many a times private banks provide loans/creditcards to consumers.When consumers at times die or dissapear to mention data in book of records and keep accounts moving profitably if any A. Mentioned Ram mohan , Delhi, had availed loan- died - then another person B. namely Ram Mohan , living in MUMBAI sometimes banks use this opportunity to use and match the living persons pancard and state he is defaulter.
    Actual matter: A. RamMohan,Delhi who actually availed loan is dead and gone.
    B.Ram mohan, Mumbai is alive but not the person who availed the loan. But because of this mismatch and then projection as defaulter at CIBIL he suffers as a defaulter for no reason of his.

    3. Banks do such activities with CIBIL s cooperation to maintain book of accounts and if defaults are more at the end of the financial year claim damages from :
    RBI Credit Allowance.

    4. Some times many private recently have displayed many consumers as defaulters.
    Actually such consumers arent defaulters. In the downturn of economy in 2007 to 2010 many banks lost a lot of money giving loans to certain consumers.Now they were unable to recover such monies as the economy crashed.
    As such many and many consumers who had availed loans turned circumstantial defaulters and many with help of the banks made a OnetimeSettlement. As the OTS was done with help of the banks they borrowed - once a mutual settlement is agreed between lending banks and borrower - after such settlement / banks can place the settler as defaulter.
    But to cover up losses when people who settled past loans wanted to avail fresh loans., banks take advantage of their name mentioned as defaulter at CIBIL and then encash on the opportunity stating if such consumers want loan- pay up 20,000 to 30,000 more so that these banks remove their names out of CIBIL.

    This is an easy way of extorting money from poor consumers.

    It causes huge loss and damage to usually lower and middleclass businessmen.

    CIBIL has become a blackmailing medium for banks to extort monies from consumers.

    FOR ALL CONSUMERS who have suffered from CIBIL ATROCITIES CONTACT US:
    WE ARE HERE FIGHTING FOR YOUR CAUSE.
    PLEASE SUPPORT US
    ALLIED LAW, INC, India - a registered firm in Banking LAWS., with an ALL INDIA Jurisdiction under Cyber LAW Act 2000 To deal with banking related and financial frauds.

    Online Registration No: E 0000002176

    Regd E-Wire Email: alliedlawd@yahoo.com

    IP Address: BRIAN SOANS

    Location: Coimbatore, India

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    Greetings !!!!!!

    Hi,

    We are Financial Legal Advisors, have been located in Chennai. We render Financial Services to our clients regarding,

    · CIBIL Report Obtaining
    · CIBIL Report Clarification / Rectification
    · Bank Bebt Re-Consolidation
    · Bank Legal Problems
    · Liaison for one time settlement with bank
    · Deal with NPA
    · Handle DRT Cases


    Contact details:

    · Contact Person :Miss. P. Saranya (MA.,BL)
    · Office name : INNOVISION SERVISES
    · Contact number : 044-2031487, Mobile:9380167894
    · E-mail: attorney.innovision@ gmail.com

    NOTE:

    We do not work for CIBIL or any government body; we are private organization having legal advisors to tackle issues& secure proper remedy.

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    ]Greetings !!!!!!

    Hi,

    We are Financial Legal Advisors, have been located in Chennai. We render Financial Services to our clients regarding,

    · CIBIL Report Obtaining
    · CIBIL Report Clarification / Rectification
    · Bank Bebt Re-Consolidation
    · Bank Legal Problems
    · Liaison for one time settlement with bank
    · Deal with NPA
    · Handle DRT Cases


    Contact details:

    · Contact Person :Miss. P. Saranya (MA.,BL)
    · Office name : INNOVISION SERVISES
    · Contact number : 044-2031487, Mobile:9380167894
    · E-mail: attorney.innovision@ gmail.com

    NOTE:

    We do not work for CIBIL or any government body; we are private organization having legal advisors to tackle issues& secure proper remedy.

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    Settlement is a technolegal failure of law of banking. Wheras only resolution cum clearance is the right way to close an existing file.


    What does a settlement mean:
    In a settlement letter the bank clearly states that settlement is given to a borrower under exceptional circumstance. Thus a consumer/borrower who enters into a settlement gets an NOC but if he/she goes into applying a new loan/creditcard he is denied by the bank.
    Why so? Technicality.
    Settlement is given by bank only under mentioning - exceptional circumstance as the bank believes that they cant collect any money from borrower they give a settlement which is to retrieve some amount collected is better than nothing.


    Now if the consumer who has done a settlement with a bank goes to a 2nd bank - the manager shall hesitate to give the person a loan. Why? for ex: the person who got a settlement gets a loan of 10 lakhs from bank no.2 the bank no.1 which gave the settlement under condition-exceptional circumstance can overule the settlement as they find a cash flow into the account of the borrower.
    They will try and sqeese maximum amount from the borrower finding inflow of fresh funds into his account.


    Thus bank no2. is very scared that if funding it does to a consumer who made settlement earlier with bank no.1 their funds will directly be collected by bank no.1 overuling the settlement .


    How to avoid such issues?
    The borrower who has NOC Letter or no NOC can and should contact banking advocate like ALLIED LAW and we at ALLIEDLAW make sure that the person who made settlement will get NOC 1st and then we shall write to the bank - that as settlement was achieved only because of mutual understanding achieved between banker and borrower to make settlement - the bank gives no claimant -resolution letter.
    The same is updated at CIBIL .



    AND
    No bank can deny loans if a consumer who made settlement with bank no.1 has given him/her a no claim cum resolution letter.

    FOR ADVICE WRITE TO:

    alliedlawd@yahoo.com

    PH: 09245201687

    FAX: 022 66459547

 

 

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